Saturday, April 11, 2009

When a flower is in full bloom, do you celebrate its beauty or mourn its iminent death?

Also, when you are in bloom, do you fully celebrate your time on Earth, or are you focused on your imminent death?





Which strategy do you think organized religion subscribes to?
When a flower is in full bloom, do you celebrate its beauty or mourn its iminent death?
I love this question! For a long time I was really down.I wasted the whole winter mourning a break up.I stayed inside all the time and drank by myself and hung out on here waaay too much.Now that spring is here,and I%26#039;m completely healed,I feel so alive again! I feel stronger than ever.I have a social life again,other than the Internet.I%26#039;ve been going out with new friends that I have made and reconnected with old friends that I kind of shut out because of my negative state of mind.I%26#039;m really living in the moment now and celebrating life with my new positive attitude.I%26#039;m 33 now (almost 34) and I never felt so young.I just started living and celebrating and plan to keep it that way for as long as possible!
Reply:Spiritually speaking, when you are in full bloom you should seek the path to be in eternal bloom.When you are fading in your years, the nerves,body become weak and mindset gets fixed afters years of habits %26amp; attachments to material,religous,relatives etc.What is the use of digging the well for water when you get thirsty?Best wishes,
Reply:I tend to do both concurrently. After all, how can you fully appreciate the value of something if you don%26#039;t recognize that its existence is finite?


Organized religion tends to fixate on death and what supposedly takes place afterward. When you do that, life becomes little more than a preparation for something else. And it makes it far easier to devalue life - to take a life or forfeit your own because you think there%26#039;s something better awaiting you on the other side. That%26#039;s primarily what makes religion so dangerous and a constant threat to the continuation of our species.
Reply:Title question: I enjoy the flower as it blooms.





Question #2: I try to enjoy life to the fullest. There is nothing more depressing than being around someone (of any age, mind you) that has the half-empty view of %26#039;having one foot in the grave%26#039;. My mother-in-law was like this for a while. I love her dearly, but her pessimism about her age (and no she was not ailing in any way - she was in perfect health) was very depressing.





Question #3: I think many organized religions focus on the death and afterlife bit. They by and large want a person to be cautious and vigilant in their daily deeds in order to secure a pleasant after life. This holds true for many religions.
Reply:I celebrate it%26#039;s beauty and it%26#039;s scent.





I have no fear of death and it is not on my mind very much.





%26quot;A man%26#039;s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.%26quot; - Albert Einstein, %26quot;Religion and Science%26quot;, New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930
Reply:I appreciate the beauty manifested through it%26#039;s natural complexity and the relationship it shares with ALL life on Earth.





Death only makes way for things yet to come and go. If we fail to appreciate things for the time they%26#039;re present, life will pass without ever being %26#039;properly%26#039; experienced.
Reply:I focus more on the bloom, Jeff. But, I prepare for each stage as I tend my roses.


That was beautifully put.


I think different religions (organized and not) and individuals have different views on the bloom.


Pagans for instance are as in awe of the death as the bloom. The entire process is beautiful to them. The decay is no less a gift than the bud. Buddhists seem to acknowledge each without placing one above the other because to do so would be to form desire. Some Christians give the after life little thought, while others seem obsessed with it. I think it depends on the person.
Reply:Depends which flower. For Peony%26#039;s (my favorites), I wait for months and months for them to bloom, only to have them die a week or so later. So I enjoy them while I can, and try to remember what they looked like to hold myself over until next year.





Organized religion subscribes to the latter, for the most part.
Reply:aw Jeff, you%26#039;re a true poet at heart. lol.





there can be no true beauty without the knowledge that it will fade and die, that%26#039;s what makes it so poignant.


Fake flowers are less beautiful than real ones for this very reason, but if you can convince yourself they ARE real, what%26#039;s the difference?


religion takes away the fear a little, capitalizes on the fear of the unknown, but realistically nobody can survive their own death, even though it%26#039;s tempting to believe that. Have you ever heard a religious person ask a terminally ill one to pass on a message to their dead friends/family? congratulate them? hardly. We just kid ourselves that death will never really happen to us.


So religion tries to convince us that we are fake flowers, no less beautiful, but fake and imortal.





Where The Wild Roses Grow - %26quot;all true beauty must die%26quot;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRMe5H9WK...
Reply:Title Question : I enjoy the flower while I can.





Second Question: I am happy just to wake up LOL It is pointless to worry about something you know is going to happen. Im more the...Let me live while I can kinda gal.





Third: Emphasis placed on securing a place in the afterlife, heaven, hell, plant base, starship enterprise, whatever LOL How boring to live your life in fear of that time you did what you had to do regardless of the consequences...
Reply:Job 14:1, %26quot;Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble. He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.%26quot;





So, like a flower we have few days. I believe organized religion subscribes to both, although we only partially mourn our imminent deaths. %26quot;Death is swallowed up in victory%26quot; (1 Cor. 15:54).





Job 14:10-14, %26quot;But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?%26quot; So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.%26quot;





1 Cor 15:57, %26quot;But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.%26quot;
Reply:I would celebrate the beauty of the flower and my life on earth, because it is limited. Focus on positive and improve the negative.





I just haven%26#039;t got the faintest idea what this question has to do with %26quot;organised religion%26quot;.
Reply:I enjoy the flower but am aware that it will die.





Christians are aware that God wants us to enjoy our lives. But like the flower, I am aware that I will die in the not far future. I will be in heaven or hell for eternity. That should concern everyone.
Reply:I celebrate the flower in full bloom.





Likewise, I celebrate my time here on Earth.





A good time to worry about the afterlife is about two minutes before we die. There%26#039;s an awful lot of living to do in the meantime.
Reply:I celebrate its beauty while recognizing the fragility of it. The same with life. I love my life and I live it in all its brevity and fragility here but I recognize that part of my life lies beyond this one.
Reply:I celebrate the beauty and my time on Earth








I think most religions focus on death and what happens after we die stressing that the time here is bad, evil, punishment, a test etc
Reply:I celebrate the flower%26#039;s full bloom as I do celebrate my life in full bloom. The Bible states the Lord wants us to have an abundant life. I also look forward to my afterlife with Him, but still celebrate the present time.
Reply:As a believer, I%26#039;m more focused on eternity. This life is much like the flower, it%26#039;s only temporary.





But we do celebrate life as well............as it is a gift from God
Reply:I try to enjoy the moment I am in and not dwell on things I cannot control or change.





And I don%26#039;t care what organized religion subscribes to.
Reply:Sounds like a clever question but it%26#039;s just a re-hash of the old...Is the glass half full or half empty.





And the answer is just as inconsequential.
Reply:Enjoy the flower while in bloom......soak up its beauty.


Why concentrate on the inevitable.





I fully celebrate life now on this earth..........death will come regardless. Are you ready to meet Jesus?
Reply:I enjoy the beauty of the flower, and I enjoy life ver


much,,but we both shall wither and die.
Reply:celebrate life to the fullest. Cause when the time comes you won%26#039;t even know it. And stop and smell the flowers in bloom on the way!
Reply:I am pretty happy any day I wake up above room temperature.
Reply:I celebrate life to the fullest for death is but an illusion!
Reply:Everything ends accept life in Christ then you never die!
Reply:celebrate life!!
Reply:Neither. It%26#039;s just a flower.
Reply:Why mourn a death that has not occurred?
Reply:I pick it.skin disease

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